Message From Jeff Brown In Beijing To Readers:

Thank you Rory and Dave, for a great show. China is just too important, actually always has been, to be ignored on the world’s 21st century stage. I am not saying that the Chinese government is angelic. All governments are inherently power hungry and evil. But after 4,000 years of continuous history, to understand China, you must be able to accept alternative definitions of democracy, rule of law, society and culture. All Xi Jinping and every Chinese leader since 1949 have said and are saying is, “We choose to develop our society, economy and culture based on Chinese terms, not on Western notions. And we resent you trying to shove your versions down our throats”. I invite Rory’s and Dave’s fans to learn more about China, in audio and writing, at http://www.44days.net. Looking forward to the next show with Rory and Dave soon! Jeff in Beijing.

Here is our Shadow of Truth interview/podcast with Jeff Brown:

This is a must-listen interview. It is the pilot interview for a series of interviews the Shadow of Truth will be doing with Jeff. We consider Jeff to be “our eyes and ears on the ground in Beijing.” These are reports from China that are unfiltered by western media.

Reader response: Very insightful stuff and quite heartening in his conviction that the leadership of China is not in on some frightening back scenes new world order deal with our oligarchs. I agree with you, Dave, that it never made sense in simple psychological terms.

Here are the people who *forced* opium on your people to get silver, who fought two wars with you over this, who dumped India’s silver on the market in the late 1920’s and early 1930’s and destroyed your economy and who have shown zero human connection to their own western countrymen. You should go in with *these* people in any kind of deal?! – “Fred H”

11 thoughts on “Message From Jeff Brown In Beijing To Readers:

  1. Very insightful stuff and quite heartening in his conviction that the leadership of China is not in on some frightening back scenes new world order deal with our oligarchs. I agree with you, Dave, that it never made sense in simple psychological terms.

    Here are the people who *forced* opium on your people to get silver, who fought two wars with you over this, who dumped India’s silver on the market in the late 1920’s and early 1930’s and destroyed your economy and who have shown zero human connection to their own western countrymen. You should go in with *these* people in any kind of deal?!

  2. I spent quite a bit of time exploring China between 2007 & 2011. For anyone interested in doing some travelling there please check out my blog… http://www.chinapositive.blogspot.com ~ I am no longer active in contributing to it but there are some worthy entries for anyone who hasn’t yet been there, especially the Shanghai, Liuzhou, and Changsha pages. Try to learn some Mandarin before going, it’ll open alot of doors.

  3. Yeah, this is good stuff. I also lived in China for some years – through most of the 2000s decade – mostly in Beijing, so a part of me envies Mr Brown for his being there to enjoy the chorus of Beijing summer locusts coming soon. 😉 (But I don’t miss the mosquitos. I used to whack them with my copy of Dante’s Inferno, to send them to Hell, where they’ll meet Henry Kissinger. But not Nixon, Nixon will be my neighbour in Purgatory.)

    I agree with much, but not all of Mr Brown’s impressions. I TOTALLY agree about leaving China to find its own way, and just sharing whatever good ideas we “Westerners” have, for the Chinese to use in their own ways if they choose. And China has NEVER been expansionist beyond its ancient sphere of influence. (China’s claims to Tibet and Xinjiang might be debatable, but they’re really none of America’s business.) Furthermore, throughout history, a STABLE China has always been GOOD for “The West”, but a weak and unstable China always causes problems – for example, if China had been stronger in the 1930s, WW II would have taken a different course, or perhaps never even started at all. Not to mention that a weak China was what gave rise to Communism, just like in a weak Russia in 1917.

    Just a few quibbles:

    1. No, China does NOT have 4,000 (or as they say, 5,000) years of “continuous history”. That’s a modern Chinese Nationalist myth, and paradoxically it’s contrary to what the Communists say, that a “New China” began in 1949. But in fairness, a “continuous history” going back to the First Emperor circa 206 BC, is partly true – in the same sense that Europe or “The West” has a continuous history going back to ancient Rome, or arguably back to around 1,200 BC (same era as China’s oldest DOCUMENTED history) if you look to Greece. Of course the official Chinese Communist (Nationalist) Party answer is, “But the STATE of China is older than any Western one!” But it’s not. It’s a young state, founded in 1949. 😉

    2. Another commenter mentioned the Opium War, a favourite grievance of Chinese nationalists. Well, yes it was shitty for the British to wage war in China over opium, however it was really a “turf war” among competing drug dealers. The British drug dealers were taking business away from the Chinese drug dealers.

    But still, I think Mr Brown is mostly right. Oh and THIS sheds more light on what’s going on in China now! 😉 (BTW, my wife is Overseas Chinese, so please no accusations of “racism” vis a vis the blue-eyed – albeit yellow – Chinese Spongebob!)

  4. PS to my above comment (posted around an hour ago but has not yet been published),

    I can’t speak for Mr Brown, but personally I really love this!:

    1. Nice video, JB. Thank you for all your thoughtful comments. It is a question of semantics about what civilization is, but the Xin Dynasty started in 2070 BC, and lasted until 1600 BC. That is where I get the “4,000 years” from. Hope you’ll take a look at my column on http://www.44days.net.

      All the best from the belly of the New Century Beast, Jeff in Beijing

  5. I might comment more later, but just in passing for now, I’ll also mention that my wife – who traces her ancestry to Chinese scholars of the 13th century (Song Dynasty), plus one Japanese pirate ancestor similar to Zheng Cheng Gong aka KoXinga (half-Japanese pirate/warrior-patriot, 1600s) – AND I (Anglo-American-Australian)…

    …both appreciate THIS semi-fictional, semi-historical depiction of my wife’s heritage, set in the time of the First Emperor, a mad tyrant who, like the accursed Chairman Mao, destroyed lots of books, but FAILED to destroy ALL of China’s ancient civilisation!:

    1. Arthur, the Shanghai stock market may be on the move, but it is just as manipulated and subject to rumor and speculation, as the West’s. Day trading is a thriving business here. Best, Jeff in Beijing.

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